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WIND
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Are these prices for real?!
Yes, these are real prices! I think you call it 'ethical
pricing'! It is a full kit - the only thing you will need apart
from this is - batteries (I can supply 110Ah deep-cycle
batteries for £45), battery hook-up wires and cement for the
foundations. These wind turbines are extremely good, and I have
sold a lot in the UK. Unfortunately, as there are a lot of
over-priced wind turbines for sale, it seems too good to be true
- so if you are thinking this, feel free to come and have a look
at the turbines before you buy - you can take one away with you
if you decide you like it.
What the dimensions for the various
turbines?
The dimensions are as
follows:
200W 2m diameter,
4m tower
300W 2.5m diameter, 6m tower
500W 2.7m diameter, 6m tower
1kW 3.0m diameter, 6m tower
What power
wind turbine do I need to power my house?
How do I know?! It
depends on the wind available and the amount of electricity that
you use. Neither is something that I can determine. I can
provide some guidance however -
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details
Does your wind turbine produce 1kW per
hour or per day?
You are confusing power (kW) and energy (kWh). The wind
turbine power is measured in kW - this means the rate at which
it produces renewable energy. If you measure the amount of
energy produced by the wind turbine in a given time e.g. in a
day, you would do so in kWh (kW hours). So if the turbine ran at
full power (2kW) for 4 hours, then it would produced 2kWx4=8kWh
of energy. Another example is a 100W lightbulb. This uses 0.1kW
of power when it is running. If the light was lit for 5hours,
then it would use 0.1 x 5hours = 0.5kWh of energy
Do I need planning permission?
Planning requirements
vary from one area to another. Most planning departments will
require planning consent for structures over 4m high. However,
planning should not be required for temporary structures - and
many people have successfully argued that a tilt-up tower (as
supplied by Navitron), is a temporary structure, as it can be
lowered to the ground when not in use. The same applies for
mounting the turbine on any kind of moveable structure, such as
a trailer, light gantry, cherry-picker or forklift.
If planning consent is sought, it is normally granted without
problems, and we can help with the wording of planning
applications, if required.
Approximately 95% of customers do not bother with planning
permission, and this does not normally cause problems. You can
always apply retrospectively, if required to do so.
Where should I site the wind turbine?
The turbine should be sited far enough away from living and
sleeping areas so as not to cause disturbance. Consideration
should also be given to neighbours in this respect - after all,
they will not be reaping the free electricity from the wind
turbine! Generally the wind turbine should be at least 6m (for
4m towers) or 8m (for 6m towers) from the house. To ensure
safety, the tower should be sited away from buildings, cars and
play-areas etc. so that no damage will occur to property if
the tower should fall for any reason. You should not allow
anyone to come within 7m of the tower whilst the wind turbine is
operating, or during windy weather, for safety reasons. Some
companies advocate mounting a wind turbine on a rooftop or gable
end. This is strongly discouraged by most installers for the
following reasons: vibration will carry through the building
structure and exaggerate noise inside the building; the building
structure may be weakened by constant vibration, unless a very
small turbine is used; planning consent is much less likely for
roof-mounted turbines and the turbulence associated with a roof
will reduce performance and lifespan
In terms of performance, the
wind turbine should be mounted in an open position away from
trees, buildings or any other structures. The turbine should be
mounted as high as practical, and with clear views to the
prevailing wind. If possible, the turbine should be located on a
hilltop, or ridge on the side exposed to the prevailing winds.
Not all locations can provide ideal positions for wind turbines,
but even theoretically poor sites can yield adequate results,
although you may experience lower outputs.
How much noise do these make?
Wind turbines are not silent, but nor are conventional power
sources (think of petrol or diesel generators!). The wind
turbines make a swishing noise, caused by turbulence around the
blades. This is not particularly loud, and often the noise of
the wind itself and of trees buffeting in the wind is louder.
However, in
strong winds, the turbine can create a whistling noise - so it
is not a good idea to site it immediately next to the bedroom
window, however, with double-glazing, it is unlikely that you
will hear the turbine inside a building 10metres away.
The
survival wind speed (40m/s) seems low
Actually this is quite fast - it is equivalent to 90mph. This is
the highest inland wind speed ever recorded in the UK. However
most wind turbine failures are caused by gusts rather than
constant high speed wind - often gusts will be far faster than
the measured wind speed, and often come from a completely
different direction. For customers in very windy
areas-particularly on the coast in exposed locations - may
consider this survival speed too low. In such circumstances, it
is possible to trim the blades to a shorter length, which will
reduce their performance in low wind speeds, but it will allow
the turbine to withstand higher wind speeds without damage. It
is important to bear in mind that these turbines are low-wind
speed turbines, which in average UK winds, outperform wind
turbines from another British manufacturer rated at 4 times
higher power!
Can I get a grant for these systems?
In order to get approval for the government's so-called grant
scheme, it is a necessary for us to spend £10 000+ getting the
wind turbines approved. If we do this, the price of the wind
turbines would have to be increased substantially to cover the
cost of this approval. When the government have issued little
more than 200 grants in total, it seems that these grants are
not that readily available! DIY installations are specifically
excluded by the grant scheme, so you would be looking at
spending £15 000+ to qualify for a wind turbine grant!
Can I connect the wind
turbine to the grid to sell the electricity?
The wind turbines producing less than 1kW of power are
low-voltage machines, designed for charging 24v-48v battery
banks. You will need a 'grid tie inverter' to feed electricity
into the mains supply. These are special inverters that must
meet the requirements set out in the G83 electrical standard (http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/Commentary-updateJun03.pdf
)However, grid-tie inverters are usually
designed for input voltages of 200-600v, so most are not
suitable for this application. There are a few available for
example Phillips can provide suitable equipment which accepts
low voltage input.
How much maintenance do the systems
require?
The wind turbines are very reliable. No strict
maintenance is necessary, but the turbine blades should be
checked regularly for damage, and to ensure that they are in
balance, and the structural parts (tower, guy wires, anchors
etc) should be checked for structural damage, cracks etc
Are spares available?
Yes, spares are available for these machines. The turbines are
very reliable, so it is unlikely you will need spares, unless
you make a mistake during installation.
Will the system need to be inspected by a
electrician or be installed by an
electrician?
As these are low voltage systems, you do not need to get an
electrician to install or commission the system. However, if you
plan to connect anything to your household wiring system, you
should consult a qualified electrician.
What is the best way to utilise wind
power?
Wind power is not a constant resource. For this reason there are
three ways to use the wind:
1. Store the power in batteries, for reuse when needed
2. Use the power to provide heating (especially useful as houses
lose heat faster in windy weather)
3. Sell the electricity directly to the grid, and buy it back
when required.
Battery storage is the easiest way to utilise wind power. Our
kits are supplied with charge controllers to regulate the power
going to the batteries, but they are also supplied with a dump
load, which will produce heat, once the batteries are fully
charged.
What batteries should I use?
Any type of lead acid battery can be used, but the best
batteries to use are 'deep cycle batteries'. Unlike car
batteries, these are designed to withstand deep discharge
without damage. They are made with much thicker and heavier lead
plates, which are more resistant to damage, and last many times
longer than conventional lead acid batteries. Deep cycle
batteries are also used for forklifts and leisure batteries. We
can supply suitable deep cycle batteries at excellent prices-
please ask us for details.
Do not be tempted to buy gel cell batteries. These are good
batteries, but not very suitable for renewable energy use. This
is because gel cells are designed to be charged carefully, and
within strict limitations. The variable nature of renewable
energy makes this application quite unsuitable.
How many batteries do I need?
The smaller wind turbines are designed for 24v usage. The 500W
turbine is designed for 36v and the 1kW for 48v. You therefore
need to use the appropriate number of 12v deep cycle batteries
connected in series i.e. 2x12v for 24v operation, 3x12v for 36v
or 4x12v for 48v. If you need higher capacity, you can make up
additional banks of batteries and put these in parallel - see
diagram below:

What is the recommended system voltage and wattage, and why?
It is a matter of personal preference, and there are
many variables that affect this decision. Often it is necessary
to chose a wind turbine that has to integrate into an existing
system - eg photovoltaics, an existing battery bank or a DC
backup system. In this case, your choice of turbine will be
determined to some extent by the existing system voltage. If you
are not constrained by this, you need to work out how much power
you require, and how much power is available. Wind power varies
enormously from one site to another, and even at different
locations on the same site, but as a general rule, in a good
location you will expect about 30% of the maximum output when
you average out over the whole year. You can expect
proportionately more power during the winter months, and periods
of bad weather.
Incidentally, it is possible
to boost the performance of the wind turbine in very low wind
conditions by using it will a smaller battery bank than
intended. For example, if you use a 500W 36v turbine to charge
24v batteries, then the power curve will be shifted towards
lower wind speeds, but with a penalty of having a lower maximum
output. One customer reported that his Navitron 500W turbine
massively exceeded the output of a Proven 2kW turbine in almost
all conditions, when used with a 24v battery.
How do I connect the batteries?
The batteries should be connected in series to produce
the required voltage. In other words, if you wish to make up a
36v battery bank using three 12v batteries, you should connect
the negative terminal of battery '1' to the positive terminal of
battery '2' and the negative terminal of battery '2' to the
positive terminal of battery '3'. The charge controller output
should then be connected to the positive terminal of battery '1'
and the negative terminal of battery '3'.
Where can I get the cables for the batteries?
Battery cable can be made up from sufficiently thick
copper cable, short lengths of steel or brass bar with battery
clamps attached, or if you have screw terminals, you can make
connectors from steel plate with appropriately drilled holes. It
is also possible to purchase battery cable from battery or
renewable energy suppliers, but expect to pay a high price!
Do you have 12v wind turbines for sale?
Yes, we can now supply the 200W and 300W turbines suitable for
12v operation
Can I use the 200W/300W wind turbine with
12v (or 500W/1000W turbine on 24v)?
Yes, you can use any of the wind turbines that I sell on 24v or
12v systems. This will mean that the maximum power output is
much reduced as the battery will act as a brake. For example, if
you use the 500W (36v) turbine with 12 volt systems expect 1/3
of the power, so around 180Watts max, on a 24 volt system the
same machine will produce about 365 Watts max. On the other hand
your cut in speed is much reduced. If you were to use a 200 Watt
(24v) Navitron wind turbine on a 12v system, its cut in speed
will be reduced from around 4.5m/s to around 2.5m/s and on low
wind sites, you will get much more power out of it over a week.
You have to obtain a new voltage regulator to prevent
over-charging of the battery.
****note: 12v versions of the
200W/300W turbines now available, also 24v version of the 500W
turbine also available******
How do I tell how
charged my Batteries are?
The state-of-charge of a lead-acid
battery can, to a certain extent, be estimated by measuring the
open terminal voltage. Prior to measuring, the battery must have
rested for 4-8 hours after charge or discharge and reside at
room temperature. A cold battery would show slightly higher
voltages and a hot battery would be lower. Plate additions of
calcium and antimony will also vary the open terminal voltage.
Furthermore, AGM has a higher voltage plateau than the flooded
lead acid
| State of Charge |
Voltage (open circuit) |
| 100% |
12.65v |
| 75% |
12.45v |
| 50% |
12.24v |
| 25% |
12.06v |
| 0% |
11.89v |
Why does my inverter shut down
unexpectedly?
This can be for two possible reasons - either the inverter is
overloaded, or the voltage is too low (due to battery voltage
too low, poor battery connections or insufficiently heavy
battery cable). The inverter shuts down before the batteries are
completely discharged to protect the battery from damage
Should
I balance the blades before use?
Yes. Balancing the blades
will result in trouble free running, smoother operation with
less vibration and longer bearing life.
How do I
balance the blades?
This is actually quite
simply. With the turbine in its normal position, and stationary,
blades and hub attached, simply place a weight onto one of the
blades extended horizontally from the hub. Start with the weight
next to the hub, and gradually move it outwards until the blade
starts to turn. Measure the minimum distance required to start
turning. Repeat with each blade. If all the measurements are the
same, then the blades are balanced. If however, one blade
requires the weight to be further out, it means that this blade
is lighter, and therefore more weight must be added. You can do
this by sandwiching lead plates between the blades and the
retaining plates.
Do I need to protect my turbine from
Lightning?
In many
areas, this is not a real threat, however wind
turbine towers should be properly grounded or
induced current from a nearby lightning strike
could damage the associated electronics.
Generally, the metal components of the tower and
turbine should be grounded to one or more ground
rods near the tower base. Very tall towers
should have a ground rod at the base plus an
additional ground rod at each guy anchor, with
all guy wires that connect to that anchor bonded
together
How much power can I
feed into the National Grid (If using
Grid-connect inverters)?
The electricity companies restrict grid-tie
systems to 3.6kW per phase (ie 10kW for 3
phase). The supply lines will handle a great
deal more than this (an average house has a 100A
fuse - so you can consume up to 24kW). You can
often agree a higher grid-feed limit, but this
normally requires a survey - which can cost up
to £500.
Email:
sales@navitron.org.uk
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